Your thoughts: nanny fees?

by DaniGirl on November 13, 2008 · 29 comments

in Working and mothering

Discuss: $100/day is too much to pay for a live-out nanny. She is young but has her ECE.

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1 Chantal November 13, 2008 at 10:04 am

Will she keep your house clean as well??? I did a bit of math with what I pay for my 2 boys (and added a fictional 3rd with what my friend pays for her son) and it came to $96. So if she keeps your house clean too then maybe it isn’t so far fetched.

2 bea November 13, 2008 at 10:19 am

Would that mean $400/week? (You’re going back four days per week, right?) If so, I think it’s pretty good. I pay $1100/month for two children, four days/week (and I pay as much for Bub’s before and after school right now as I do for Pie’s full days), and that’s subsidized by the town – it would be about 25% more if I were paying full day-care fees.

3 Guillermo November 13, 2008 at 10:24 am

For three kids I think it’s OK, considering you have the person going to your place… and if snacks and/or lunch are on you, sounds like a win-win situation.

Have a good day….

4 Andrea November 13, 2008 at 10:37 am

Hi Dani! Here in the land of the rednecks we pay out the butthole for child care too. It’s $30 a day per child (or $750/mo)…so if you don’t have to bundle the gang up to go somewhere where they’ll be exposed to lice, fifths disease, vomiting/diarrhea, etc. (you get my point) I say go for it.

5 Jojo November 13, 2008 at 10:47 am

I think $100/day is good. I have my little guy(almost 9 months) in daycare and as a part-timer, I pay $60/day. 5 years ago I was a live-out nanny and for a 9-hour day, a toddler who stayed home and a preschooler who attended school in the morning they paid me $90. I cleaned a small amount, and sometimes had supper ready for them a few times a week.

If you feel the caregiver is really good, has good training, and your children like her I think its worth the money.

I can sympathize with your hunt. We looked for a live-out nanny as well, tried out a home daycare and have finally found a really good daycare that takes babies part-time. Our hunt was also long and arduous, with both of us in tears at times.

Good luck!

6 Vanessa November 13, 2008 at 11:00 am

Well.. I think on average in Ottawa (last I heard) $37/day was the going rate for full-day child care. SO… considering she’s coming to your place, and watching 3 kids – I’d say it’s quite reasonable. I know with most nannies there is some light housekeeping involved – some of the kids’ laundry, meal preps (for the kids) and ensuing kitchen tidy-up.. and just having someone at home to throw a lasagna into the oven at a certain time so it’s ready at a decent time for dinner…that’s priceless. Add to that – if the older ones are sick and can’t go to school, they can stay home with the nanny rather than you having to take time off to care for them because you can’t bring sick kids to the caregiver’s… Sounds like a win-win situation. NOW… financially… is it worth going back to work? If you’re paying $400 a week in child care, are you making enough to make it worth it?

7 Barbara November 13, 2008 at 11:02 am

I think $100 per day for someone to look after your 3 would be reasonable. At a daycare, Lucas would be $1200-1500 per month, Simon about $900 and who knows what for Tristan. You’d have to get them to daycare and school and then back again. I think that 3 kids must be where nannies become “economical” – though all childcare is shockingly expensive IMHO.

8 Vanessa November 13, 2008 at 11:03 am

one more… the fact that she has her ECE is a bonus… you know she’s got an education behind her and at least has a basis to start from. If she’s fresh out of the program, she’s likely eager and enthusiastic and will have lots of quality activities and playtime ideas to share with the boys. That being said… although she’s qualified and reasonable…what does your gut tell you? Can you see her being (basically) the primary caregiver to the boys 4 days a week?

9 Guider November 13, 2008 at 11:08 am

CDN$100 = approx £50, I think. In which case, yes, sounds fab because my son’s pre-school was £30 a day for him alone, for up to 8.30-6 though I just used it till 4.45.

10 Ernesta November 13, 2008 at 11:10 am

We are in the process of looking for a nanny- live in’s run about $1500 a month which includes light house cleaning – live outs are generally more. Your candidate has her ECE which is a huge bonus and you said she is young which means she has lots of energy, which in my opinion is even more important. It all boils down to whether you think she has good sense.

11 liz November 13, 2008 at 11:11 am

I think it sounds perfectly reasonable.

12 Lynn November 13, 2008 at 11:50 am

I’ll add my vote to everyone else’s — I think it sounds like a reasonable rate, and well worth it for the convenience of having someone come to your home.

13 trixie November 13, 2008 at 12:09 pm

Oh, for sure! Esp. if she’d agree to throw chicken and some salsa, corn and black beans in the slow cooker every day (OK, maybe I’m the only one who could eat it every day, but the point holds!).

Are you nervous, though, that your young, educated prospect is biding time until the daycare job she really wants pops up? How gun-shy are you about being left in a lurch? …. (am I mean to ask right under the big font that reads “Comments make me happy!”?) I guess I’m wondering what your gut reaction was, too.

14 cinnamon gurl November 13, 2008 at 12:35 pm

10 years ago I knew a nanny who made maybe $350 a week for five days a week and she didn’t have ECE. I’d say with inflation since then $100/day sounds fair, especially with ECE. One of Swee’pea’s teachers at the daycare babysits independently at people’s houses evenings and weekends and she charges $10 an hour. Which isn’t far off $100/day by the time you get to work and home again.

15 Meghan November 13, 2008 at 2:37 pm

And don’t forget you can write some off thanks to the Canadian Tax System!

16 Natasha November 13, 2008 at 5:17 pm

I provided part-time childcare to a family a year and a half ago and although I don’t have my ECE, I have about 10 years experience doing childcare, and I charged $12/h for three kids. ($8/h for the first and $2/h for each additional one). So you can figure out how long she will have each of your boys and see if that seems reasonable. (Although I don’t know what daycare/nanny fees are like now). And with that childcare I didn’t do any housecleaning, cooking, etc. besides cleaning up the mess I made with the kids.

17 Nanny November 13, 2008 at 6:06 pm

The most important question to ask when looking for a nanny is whether or not you feel safe leaving your kids with her. Also, keep in mind what services they offer. 100$ a day seems a little steep, but once again, what price are you willing to put on the safety of your children?

18 DaniGirl November 13, 2008 at 6:48 pm

These have been extremely helpful comments. Thanks, y’all! I’ll keep you posted!!

Trixie, that chicken and salsa thing sounds pretty good. Share the recipe?

19 Susan November 13, 2008 at 7:13 pm

I think if you have 3 kids and she is coming to your house, it’s a bargain. I had a nanny for my two boys for 9 hours a day and I paid her $13/hour which worked out to $117 a day. We had such a great experience with our nanny, I keep telling all of my friends with kids to consider it!

20 Theresa November 13, 2008 at 9:23 pm

I’m interested in knowing what level of ECE she has??? Level one being a short (usually free) course… or say a 2 year certificate?? (I think that is considered level three) And IF she has level three – consider asking her why she is interested in private care rather than a roomful of noisy kids…(put it that way and private care DOES sound better….) just so you know – anyways.

I’m sure you’ve been down this road before – but make sure to get a criminal rec. check AND ask about a child welfare check…

Unfortunately the $100 per day does sound reasonable…stay strong girl!!

21 daysgoby November 14, 2008 at 8:28 am

If she’s good and loves your kids, 100.00 is pocket change.

If she’s bad? Why on earth would you pay someone 100.00 a day??

22 Tracey November 14, 2008 at 8:54 am

You know I think it’s worth it! I pay $85 a day for a live-in nanny for 2 kids. I’d pay her twice that if I had to. She makes my life so much easier. I get up in the morning, have breakfast with the kids and then go to work–no hassles. I come home, dinner is ready. We all eat together and then after dinner I play with the kids while she cleans up. She also keeps the house tidy, does the laundry, writes a grocery list etc. She is WONDERFUL!

Go for it! You will not regret it!

If you’d be interested in an international nanny, let me know. I can help. Arlene’s friend is looking for work, and since her sister lives here, she may accept a “live-Out” arrangement.

23 smothermother November 14, 2008 at 9:08 am

I pay $40 a day for a day care (I live in Ottawa as well). $100 for a live out nanny, for 3 kids? Sounds lieka steal to me.

24 Erin November 14, 2008 at 9:59 am

Ha ha – I enjoyed Andrea’s comment that she thinks that $30/day is out the butthole. Sounds cheap to me!

My Ottawa fees are $40/day per preschooler, $63/day for under 2-1/2 for in a daycare. You have 3 kids. The math for $100 day in-house care is in your favour. Plus, if they are in your home you don’t have to wake them up, pack them up and rush around with them. A friend with 3 just switched from daycares to a nanny and she said the quality of life in the mornings and evenings has really improved for her family. Plus, her nanny will start supper if she leaves her instructions.

I think it’s most important you have someone you, your spouse and your kids all like. She will become part of your kids family.

Remember, this woman will be working for a $800 paycheck, and then have to pay taxes out of it. I think she is offering you a low price for the most important service she will be providing for your family.

Good luck!

25 Annika November 14, 2008 at 3:20 pm

Sounds verrrrrrrry reasonable, especially if it includes some meal prep and light housekeeping. Keep us posted!!

26 Carly November 14, 2008 at 10:50 pm

Chiming in a little late, but better that than never?

We’ve had a live-in nanny here in the Ottawa area for almost 6 months now and it’s a dream come true. She cooks, cleans, does laundry and cares for our 2 year old, working 5 days a week for about 8.5 to 9 hours a day.

She nets about $1000/month and our out of pocket actual expense is about $1400/month (you have to contribute to EI and CPP). That’s $88/day. Oh and the rates do not change based on the number of kids you have. God willing we’ll have another while she’s still with us and the costs will be cheaper than Daycare. And did I mention she does laundry?

We are not legally responsible for her (i.e./ we are not sponsoring her), though we do have to provide a room with a door that locks. She’s loving, unobtrusive (sp?) and quiet. She works hard and has made a ton of friends in the neighbourhood – so much so that she no longer stays with us over the weekends, giving all of us some welcome privacy as we’re in a small 3-bedroom townhome.

Good luck with your search!

27 J. November 22, 2008 at 9:10 am

omg! if that’s the price for a nanny, that’s alot of money! that’s almost more than I make a day (tax free). No way. If that’s how much it costs to have a nanny (or daycare) I don’t know if I want any children. :S

28 JR February 9, 2009 at 7:01 pm

I am a graduate student with extensive experience with kids – both babysitting and coaching in sports. I love taking care of kids and have always had the best references and even a waiting list at one point. I realize the reality of financial crunching that many people are dealing with – but isn’t it a truly unmatched priority to make sure your kids have the most devoted, loving, skilled, fun, and level headed caregiver when you, the parents are not available? If you want Mary Poppins for Dollar store prices – and yet most employed parents who may have important office jobs but have left others to the daily nourishing of their little ones mind, heart and bodies would never accept, or would be incredibly bitter, constantly if their work was devalued. So why, do this to one of the most important people you will ever work with? Do you want your kid to thrive? Hire accordingly and remember that if you demonstrate you value the care and attention your nanny showers on your kids, likewise, she/he will not feel pinched and shortchanged and will feel free to to just be the best nanny for your kids. It is disgusting the way nannies are continuously financially exploited in Canada. I offer devoted, loving care. The last family I worked with appreciated this concept, paid me $18/hr. (which is the higher end for sure, ) they respected my boundaries for when I needed to do my work and so forth and we had a great working relationship! When their 2 boys got old enough, I continued to do tutoring, and accompany them on business trips so the boys would swim and hike, and not play video games all day. They respected my need for sleep, normal meals, to go out in my own life and do my school work. I felt compensated and appreciated and as such I really valued the position and enjoyed it.
They had to sacrifice and prioritize, but their kids, now grown, are the better for it.

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