{"id":260,"date":"2005-10-21T11:33:00","date_gmt":"2005-10-21T11:33:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/danigirl.ca\/blog\/?p=260"},"modified":"2008-05-13T06:51:08","modified_gmt":"2008-05-13T11:51:08","slug":"zed-versus-zee-a-love-letter-to-nancy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/danigirl.ca\/blog\/2005\/10\/21\/zed-versus-zee-a-love-letter-to-nancy\/","title":{"rendered":"Zed versus zee, a love-letter to Nancy"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/blog-pourri.blogspot.com\/2005\/10\/zed-or-zee-and-little-bit-of-zen.html\">Nancy&#8217;s <\/a>fault. She asked &#8220;So, which one is it (zed or zee)? Anyone know? And should we really care? Is it really a Canadian versus American thing? Or something else?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Ooo ooo ooo! (dances in chair, waving hand in the air) I know, I know! I care!!<\/p>\n<p>In fact, my darling Nancy, it is not so much a Canadian thing to say &#8220;zed&#8221; as it is an American thing to say &#8220;zee&#8221;. According to <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Z\">wikipedia<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In almost all forms of Commonwealth English, the letter is named zed, reflecting its derivation from the Greek zeta. Other European languages use a similar form, e.g. the French z\u00c3\u00a8de, Spanish and Italian zeta. The American English form zee derives from an English late 17th-century dialectal form, now obsolete in England. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Is it really worth all this debate?  Even Shakespeare himself cast aspersions on the dignity of the 26th letter of the alphabet with an insult I&#8217;m going to try to work into at least two conversations today:  <strong>Thou whoreson zed! Thou unnecessary letter!<\/strong><em> (King Lear, act II, scene II.)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>You got me curious, though, so I did a little bit more research on the subject.  According to the <em>Concise Oxford Companion<\/em>, &#8220;The modification of zed to zee appears to have been by analogy with bee, dee, vee, etc.&#8221;  It seems Noah Webster, the dictionary guru, seems to have mass-marketed the &#8220;zee&#8221; pronunciation, along with the incorrect spelling of &#8220;centre&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Apparently we Canadians aren&#8217;t the only ones feeling the effects of the Americanization of the &#8220;Sesame Street&#8221; phenomenon you mentioned and its influence on how you learned to say zee versus zed. I found a <a href=\"http:\/\/72.14.207.104\/search?q=cache:E6SR5EWDZjcJ:www.swarthmore.edu\/SocSci\/Linguistics\/papers\/2003\/miller.pdf+zed+versus+zee&#038;hl=en\">research paper <\/a>titled, &#8220;Can Sesame Street bridge the Pacific Ocean? The effects of American television on the Australian language.&#8221; The introduction to her thesis talks about how just like here, Australian kids learn to say &#8220;zee&#8221; by watching Sesame Street and their parents correct them to say &#8220;zed&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Sesame Street&#8217;s influence also gets mentioned in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.chass.utoronto.ca\/~chambers\/zed.html\">this chapter <\/a>from the textbook <em>Sociolinguistic Theory: Linguistic Variation and Its Social Significance. <\/em>He says,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>With the use of &#8220;zee&#8221; stigmatized, it is perhaps strange that children should learn it at all. One source is pre-school television shows beamed from the United States, notably one called Sesame Street, which was almost universally watched by children in the 1960s when it had no serious rivals&#8230; Sesame Street and its imitators promote the alphabet with zeal, almost as a fetish, thus ensuring that their young viewers hear it early and recite it often. The &#8220;zee&#8221; pronunciation is reinforced especially by the &#8220;Alphabet Song,&#8221; a piece of doggerel set to music that ends with these lines:<\/p>\n<p>ell em en oh pee cue,<br \/>ar ess tee,<br \/>yoo vee double-yoo, eks wye zee.<br \/>Now I know my ey bee sees,<br \/>Next time, won&#8217;t you sing with me?<\/p>\n<p>The rhyme of &#8220;zee&#8221; with &#8220;tee&#8221; is ruined if it is pronounced &#8220;zed,&#8221; a fact that seems so salient that many Ontario nursery school teachers retain it in the song even though they would never use it elsewhere.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>More than just ending the alphabet song with a jarring non-rhyme, the zed\/zee conundrum poses problems for people trying to market technology across the border.  <a href=\"http:\/\/www.canoe.ca\/CNEWSWeirdNews0005\/05_phone.html\">CNews <\/a>reports on a Toronto law firm who lobbied Bell Canada and Nortel to change the pronunciation from &#8220;zee&#8221; to &#8220;zed&#8221; in the directory on their voice mail system:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;We&#8217;ve had inquiries about why it is the way it is when we&#8217;re Canadian,&#8221; said Tammie Manning, a communications analyst at the law firm. &#8220;(People said) we&#8217;re not the States. We&#8217;re independent. Why should we be subjected to that?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Several officials from Nortel insisted the technology to make the switch from &#8220;zee&#8221; to &#8220;zed&#8221; was simply not yet available. But by mid-afternoon Friday, following several calls from a reporter, the company&#8217;s director of corporate communications said Nortel would change the &#8220;zee&#8221; to &#8220;zed&#8221; as soon as possible.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And then, of course, there is the infamous Joe Canadian rant from Molson&#8217;s, which although overplayed and out of date, still merits mention in the discussion:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Hey, I&#8217;m not a lumberjack, or a fur trader, and I don&#8217;t live in an igloo, or eat blubber or own a dogsled.  And I don&#8217;t know Jimmy, Sally or Suzy from Canada, although I&#8217;m certain they&#8217;re really, really nice.  I have a Prime Minister&#8230; not a president, I speak English and French, not American and I pronounce it About, not A-boot. <\/p>\n<p>I can proudly sew my country&#8217;s flag on my backpack, I believe in peacekeeping, not policing, diversity not assimilation, and that the beaver is a truly proud and noble animal.  A toque is a hat, a chesterfield is a couch, and it IS pronounced Zed, not Zee&#8230; ZED!!  Canada is the 2nd largest land mass, the 1st nation of hockey, and the best part of North America.  My name is Joe and I AM CANADIAN!  Thank you.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So you see, dearest Nancy, it DOES matter, in a patriotic sort of way.   Aren&#8217;t you sorry you asked?<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"technoratitag\"><span style=\"font-size:78%;\">Categories: <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/del.icio.us\/danigirl\/Canadianisms\" rel=\"tag\"><span style=\"font-size:78%;\">Canadianisms<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s Nancy&#8217;s fault. She asked &#8220;So, which one is it (zed or zee)? Anyone know? And should we really care? Is it really a Canadian versus American thing? Or something else?&#8221; Ooo ooo ooo! (dances in chair, waving hand in the air) I know, I know! I care!! In fact, my darling Nancy, it is &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/danigirl.ca\/blog\/2005\/10\/21\/zed-versus-zee-a-love-letter-to-nancy\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Zed versus zee, a love-letter to Nancy&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[70],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-260","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-wordplay"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/danigirl.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/260","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/danigirl.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/danigirl.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/danigirl.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/danigirl.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=260"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/danigirl.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/260\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/danigirl.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=260"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/danigirl.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=260"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/danigirl.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=260"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}