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	<title>Comments on: Strollers on buses &#8211; my letter to the editor</title>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://danigirl.ca/blog/2008/10/09/strollers-on-buses-my-letter-to-the-editor/comment-page-1/#comment-53540</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do they really think it&#039;s FUN for the mom?  Good for you for speaking out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do they really think it&#8217;s FUN for the mom?  Good for you for speaking out.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
		<link>http://danigirl.ca/blog/2008/10/09/strollers-on-buses-my-letter-to-the-editor/comment-page-1/#comment-53489</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great letter Dani! Way to tell them!.</description>
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		<title>By: ewe_are_here</title>
		<link>http://danigirl.ca/blog/2008/10/09/strollers-on-buses-my-letter-to-the-editor/comment-page-1/#comment-53427</link>
		<dc:creator>ewe_are_here</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 22:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great letter.

It&#039;s so sad that people are so mean spirited and petty about having to take two seconds to manoeuvre around a stroller on a public bus.  Probably the same people who grumble about wheelchair users and the fact that the front of the bus seating (prime seating in their view) goes to the elderly and disabled first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great letter.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s so sad that people are so mean spirited and petty about having to take two seconds to manoeuvre around a stroller on a public bus.  Probably the same people who grumble about wheelchair users and the fact that the front of the bus seating (prime seating in their view) goes to the elderly and disabled first.</p>
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		<title>By: XUP</title>
		<link>http://danigirl.ca/blog/2008/10/09/strollers-on-buses-my-letter-to-the-editor/comment-page-1/#comment-53381</link>
		<dc:creator>XUP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This whole stroller issue has been a sore point with me as well. The whole point of public transportation is that it&#039;s for the public and the public comes in a variety of shapes and sizes and with a variety of accessories -- from strollers to walkers to electric wheelchairs to shopping carts to a dining room table from IKEA (disassembled in one of their handy flat boxes). If we&#039;re going to start kicking people off for taking up too much room, then we&#039;ll have to get rid of the really fat man and the old people who walk too slowly and the guy with the cane that rests in the walkway. 

And, I&#039;m saying this as someone who travels without accessories. I&#039;ll look out for your letter!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole stroller issue has been a sore point with me as well. The whole point of public transportation is that it&#8217;s for the public and the public comes in a variety of shapes and sizes and with a variety of accessories &#8212; from strollers to walkers to electric wheelchairs to shopping carts to a dining room table from IKEA (disassembled in one of their handy flat boxes). If we&#8217;re going to start kicking people off for taking up too much room, then we&#8217;ll have to get rid of the really fat man and the old people who walk too slowly and the guy with the cane that rests in the walkway. </p>
<p>And, I&#8217;m saying this as someone who travels without accessories. I&#8217;ll look out for your letter!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jerri Ann</title>
		<link>http://danigirl.ca/blog/2008/10/09/strollers-on-buses-my-letter-to-the-editor/comment-page-1/#comment-53350</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerri Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You go girl!</description>
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		<title>By: Marianne</title>
		<link>http://danigirl.ca/blog/2008/10/09/strollers-on-buses-my-letter-to-the-editor/comment-page-1/#comment-53326</link>
		<dc:creator>Marianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read your letter in the paper this morning, (not realising it was you) and agreed with it.  

I&#039;d also like ot point out that, in the photo of the woman and her daughter that accompanied the article, she was using an Avalon umbrella stroller (I noticed becuase it&#039;s the same as mine), which is about as compact as you can get -- certainly narrower from side to side than a walker or wheelchair.  But on the other hand, her children are old enough she probably could have folded the stroller and held the younger one while the older sat beside her.  If it had been a giant side-by-side double stroller, it would have been a different matter.

Oh, and Ottawa does have quite a few of the low-floor buses in service, but this particular bus happened to be one of the older style with steps at the doors, narrower aisles, and no seats that fold up to make room for wheelchairs and strollers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read your letter in the paper this morning, (not realising it was you) and agreed with it.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like ot point out that, in the photo of the woman and her daughter that accompanied the article, she was using an Avalon umbrella stroller (I noticed becuase it&#8217;s the same as mine), which is about as compact as you can get &#8212; certainly narrower from side to side than a walker or wheelchair.  But on the other hand, her children are old enough she probably could have folded the stroller and held the younger one while the older sat beside her.  If it had been a giant side-by-side double stroller, it would have been a different matter.</p>
<p>Oh, and Ottawa does have quite a few of the low-floor buses in service, but this particular bus happened to be one of the older style with steps at the doors, narrower aisles, and no seats that fold up to make room for wheelchairs and strollers.</p>
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		<title>By: daysgoby</title>
		<link>http://danigirl.ca/blog/2008/10/09/strollers-on-buses-my-letter-to-the-editor/comment-page-1/#comment-53324</link>
		<dc:creator>daysgoby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 23:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! I love well-written, well thought out letters to the editor - this was a nice change from the &#039;God and cats&#039; old ladies brigade that populate the letters to the editor page here...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I love well-written, well thought out letters to the editor &#8211; this was a nice change from the &#8216;God and cats&#8217; old ladies brigade that populate the letters to the editor page here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Batman</title>
		<link>http://danigirl.ca/blog/2008/10/09/strollers-on-buses-my-letter-to-the-editor/comment-page-1/#comment-53321</link>
		<dc:creator>Batman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 22:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m on your side.

I believe this may be a case of discrimination based on family status.  I wonder if OCTranspo has considered the cost and potential impact of litigation in this regard.  There was a very good paper put out by the Ontario Human Rights Commission entitled, &quot;Policy and Guidelines on Discrimination Because of Family Status.&quot;  

The introduction to the policy makes it quite clear that service providers must respect the dignity and worth of every member of society.  It further notes that those who bear children and benefit society as a whole should not be economically or socially disadvantaged.  The policy also seems to indicate that there is a required duty to accommodate on the part of OCTranspo.  I&#039;m not sure if that was addressed in the papers.  Hopefully someone is giving it some thought.

Nice article by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m on your side.</p>
<p>I believe this may be a case of discrimination based on family status.  I wonder if OCTranspo has considered the cost and potential impact of litigation in this regard.  There was a very good paper put out by the Ontario Human Rights Commission entitled, &#8220;Policy and Guidelines on Discrimination Because of Family Status.&#8221;  </p>
<p>The introduction to the policy makes it quite clear that service providers must respect the dignity and worth of every member of society.  It further notes that those who bear children and benefit society as a whole should not be economically or socially disadvantaged.  The policy also seems to indicate that there is a required duty to accommodate on the part of OCTranspo.  I&#8217;m not sure if that was addressed in the papers.  Hopefully someone is giving it some thought.</p>
<p>Nice article by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Natalie</title>
		<link>http://danigirl.ca/blog/2008/10/09/strollers-on-buses-my-letter-to-the-editor/comment-page-1/#comment-53318</link>
		<dc:creator>Natalie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said!  I&#039;ve been fuming myself over all of this nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said!  I&#8217;ve been fuming myself over all of this nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: colleen</title>
		<link>http://danigirl.ca/blog/2008/10/09/strollers-on-buses-my-letter-to-the-editor/comment-page-1/#comment-53317</link>
		<dc:creator>colleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done!</description>
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